Interview: Chengyi Sun X Bruno Barbey

访谈:孙成毅 X 布鲁诺·巴贝

To be curious about the world ,to keep a fresh eye !
要对世界充满好奇,要保持清新的目光!

It is said that you joined Magnum Photos in your 20s. At that time, did you shoot the “Italie” (Italy) series? Who was in contact with Magnum at that time? Can you talk about this experience?

In the early 60 I photographed the “Italians” with the help of the french publisher Robert Delpire .He had just publish the book the” Americains” by Robert Franck .At that time when I join Magnum there was only 2 photographers base in Paris : Henri Cartier Bresson and Marc Riboud.

They have made both remarquable work in China.

You have the reputation as a “color master”. When did you become interested in the perception of color? How does it relate to your life and experience?

I was born in Morocco a country with strong colors. The painters Delacroix did remarquable paintings and later ,Henri Matisse after is visit to Morocco said that he had to change his palette of colors. I guess it is one of the reason why I became interested in the perception of colors.

Magnum  photographers and Henri Cartier Bresson in the early days  did not like colors .At that time the color reproduction in publications was not good . There was only 2 Photographers shooting in color :Ernst Haas and Brian Brake when I joined magnum.I start to use seriously color in 1966 during a long trip in Brazil.

When you are young, you are fascinated by Italian neorealism movies. Do you think these experiences have an impact on your photography? Is it mainly reflected in photography?

Indeed I was fascinated by the Italian neorealisme movies and it help me to understand better the Italian rich culture!

Accuracy, authenticity, poetry, beauty and fragility of the world. Is this the commonality conveyed in your work?

I more interested to photograph beauty than wars.

Mr. Jean-Luc Monterosso described you as saying: “He seems to have a genius intuition. This intuition guides him to take the lead in the world and stand at the most suitable time. The right place.” Accurate time, the right location, how do you practice this intuition?

I make research to be inform on situation  which .permit me to be at the right place at the right time.

How can a photographer create his own photography project? How do you grasp the relationship between the generation of an idea, the identity in the filming process, the choice of a good photo, the performance of the filming, and the final presentation of the work?

To work on a photographic  project need preparation and research this to be familiar with the thema  that you want to photograph.The final presentation might be a book and an exhibit.

The styles of Magnum photo club members are now very different, with traditional documentary meanings, including Martin Parr’s new documentary type, and contemporary photography types such as Alec Soth. As a former chairman of Magnum Photo Agency, how do you view the differentiation of these “performances”?

The different way to work with magnum photographers is important and indeed each one has his on style .There is a larger diversity of style today .

Academician of the French Academy is one of your important titles. Can you tell us about the French Academy?

The French Academie des beaux Arts promote the artistique creation in the world and preserve the artistique patrimoine of France.

1973, 1980, 2010… You have visited China many times and witnessed a series of changes in New China. How do you view this country?

I have seen the last 45 years the extraordinary mutation of China who become a super power in few decade  but in the same time  China has to solve the huge effect of pollution specialy in big cities .

What is the most important thing in photography? Do you have any suggestions for Chinese photographers with dreams?

To be curious about the world ,to keep a fresh eye !

据说您在20几岁就加入了马格南图片社。那时候您拍摄的是《Italie》(意大利)系列?当时与马格南谁接触的呢?能聊聊这个经历吗?

在60年代早期,我在法国出版商罗伯特·德尔皮尔的帮助下拍摄了“意大利人”。他刚刚出版了罗伯特·弗兰克的“美国人”一书。当时我加入马格南时,巴黎只有2位摄影师: Henri Cartier Bresson和Marc Riboud。(亨利·卡地亚·布列松和马克·里布。)

他们在中国做了两件令人满意的工作。

您有一个“色彩大师”的美誉,是从什么时候开始对色彩的感知产生了兴趣?它和您的生活与经历有什么联系吗?

我出生在摩洛哥一个色彩浓烈的国家。 画家德拉克洛瓦做了重新制作的画作,后来,在访问摩洛哥之后,亨利马蒂斯说他必须改变他的色彩。 我想这也是我对色彩感知产生兴趣的原因之一。

马格南摄影师和亨利·卡地亚·布列松在早期并不喜欢颜色。当时出版物中的色彩再现并不好。 只有2位摄影师拍摄的颜色:恩斯特哈斯和布赖恩布拉克,当我加入马格南时。我在1966年的巴西长途旅行中开始使用严肃的色彩。

年轻的时候,您对意大利新现实主义电影很着迷。您觉得这些经历对您的摄影有影响吗?它主要体现在摄影上的是?

事实上,我对意大利新现实主义电影着迷,它帮助我更好地了解意大利丰富的文化!

准确性、真实性、诗意、世界的美丽与脆弱,这是您作品中传递的共性?

我更感兴趣的是拍摄美女而不是战争。

Jean-Luc Monterosso(让-吕克·蒙特罗索)先生形容您时说了这么一句话:“他似乎有一种天才的直觉,这种直觉指引他领先世人一步,在最合适的时间站到最合适的地方。”准确的时间,合适的位置,您是如何练就这种直觉的?

我做调查研究是为了给出当时的情况,这就要求我自己在适当的时候出现在正确的地方。

一个摄影人该如何创建自己的摄影项目?从一个想法的产生、拍摄过程中的同一性、好照片的选择、拍摄的表现手法、作品最终的呈现这些节点之间该如何去把握?

要做一个摄影项目需要准备和研究,以熟悉你想要拍摄的主题。最终的展示可能是一本书和一个展览。

马格南图片社成员作品风格现在变化很大,有传统纪实意义的,有Martin Parr(马丁· 帕尔)新纪实摄影类型的,也有Alec Soth(埃里克·索斯)这类当代摄影类型的,作为马格南图片社前任主席您如何看待这些“表现”的差异化?

与马格南摄影师合作的不同方式很重要,事实上每个人都有他的风格。今天风格更加多样化。

法兰西学院院士是您重要的头衔之一,能否为我们介绍一下法兰西学院?

法国Academie des beaux艺术学院促进了世界艺术创作,并保留了法国的艺术创作。

1973、1980、2010……您多次来访中国,见证了新中国的一系列变化,您如何看待这个国家?

在过去的45年里,我看到中国在几十年内成为超级大国的非同寻常的变化,但与此同时,中国必须在大城市中解决特定污染的巨大影响。

摄影中最重要的是什么?您对有着梦想的中国摄影人有什么建议吗?

要对世界充满好奇,要保持清新的目光!